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Ep 017: The What If Episode
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What if Sammy Hagar turned down the offer to join Van Halen? What if Van Halen fully reunited in 1996? What if the band never recorded “Jump?”
In this episode of The Mighty VH Podcast, Tommy and Tor head into the alternate universe of Van Halen history and ask some of the biggest “What If?” questions from throughout the band’s legendary career.
From lineup changes and missed opportunities to songs, albums and decisions that could have completely altered the course of the band, they explore how one different choice or one different moment might have rewritten Van Halen history. Some scenarios are rooted in things that almost happened, while others are pure speculation, leading to plenty of debate over where each alternate path might have taken the band.
It’s Van Halen history as it happened and as it very easily might not have.
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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome once again to the Mighty VH podcast with your hosts, me, Tommy London, and my good bud Tor. We have always talked about Van Halen, so we decided to share it all with you. Thank you for joining us. What's going on, Tor? What's the topic today?
SPEAKER_01Uh, there's this idea we've been kicking around that I I think subconsciously we've been kicking around forever, which is the the what if episode. Yeah. Right? Like we've always had those comments, like, man, can you imagine if if Dave never left Van Halen? Or can you imagine if if you know Dave was never in Van Halen or, you know, Sammy, you know, because there was that whole talk at the beginning of their career when Ted Templeman took over, like, you know, maybe he was gonna get rid of Dave and bring in Sammy Hagar of all people, right? Like that was talk. Like, can you imagine if that actually happened? So I think today we're gonna go through a couple of these what ifs and uh and see where the just where the conversation goes. Because you know, over the years you and I have had these conversations and we take them to some some good places. But uh, I mean, I mean, what if, right? Like it's I think it's so incredibly like so coincidental that um you know that whole story of when Van Halen got signed and they were working with Ted Templeman, working on pre-production for the first album, and Ted was not impressed with Dave. And, you know, had some concerns about having Dave as the singer of this band, saw the potential for this band, but you know, maybe if they had a different singer, and what if he would have acted on that instinct instead of what if he zigged instead of zagged and they were talking about bringing in Sammy Hagar? Like, what would Van Halen have sounded like from the beginning? We never would have heard songs like, you know, you would have heard the music to Running with the Devil, but you wouldn't have heard that lyric. What would Sammy have come up with, right?
SPEAKER_00Like, what's what I mean, what would that have been like? Would you really got me had been the cover song? Would there have been a cover? You know, it or Sammy Hagar's solo career would have also possibly uh been derailed, you know.
SPEAKER_01Um, because he had a career prior to that. He was in, you know, he was in Montrose and he had a solo career, and and what would have right, we never would have we wouldn't have known that Sammy couldn't drive 55 unless maybe Sammy would have written those lyrics over Jamie's crying, like yeah, right.
SPEAKER_00So let's let's do a double what if here with the same scenario. What if Sammy Hagar joined Van Hill in the beginning? And what if after they ran its course, David Lee Roth was the second lead singer?
SPEAKER_01Oh, could you imagine?
SPEAKER_00Like what that would be pretty wild, you know.
SPEAKER_01You know what, man? I have subscribed whole, you know, like not wholeheartedly, but like in the back of my mind, I'd like to think, you know, like there's been a lot of like in the Marvel universe, there's alternate universes, right? Yeah, yeah, there's alternate universes like where that all that stuff happened, right? I want to I want to believe that. So somewhere out there, that is going on right now. That is the reality in some other universe. But it would be crazy to think like you take the the fury that Van Halen brought on the first album, and it comes with a different attitude, you know, like Dave being part of that band from the get-go, and they all evolved together in terms of musical stylings and writings, and and what was brought to the table that created the Van Halen sound, right? So the story goes, you know, the brothers were rock fans and they cream and Led Zeppelin, etc., Deep Purple, and Dave was coming from a different place. He was coming from more of an urban sound, more you know, more danceable, more soul type music. And and those two things together made up what we know as the early days of Van Halen. So if you take that part of the equation out where you don't have that soul, that soda sound, you bring in Sammy, who's more of a blues-based, which is also sort of got has a soul background, but totally different type lyrics, type melodies, type delivery. Um, and and maybe you bring in a singer at the last second who didn't evolve with the band. Would the music still have that same fury? Would it be a little disjointed? Would it be better? Would it be something, you know, like that we had never even conceived of happening, you know, because Eddie was clear clearly at a different stage in his writing in 78 versus 85 when Sammy does join, you know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's interesting. It is interesting, could have just lasted one record. It could have just been like, ah, yeah, this guitar guy is great, and I don't know, this isn't really working. Or it could like we said, it could have just went on, we'll never know. What if?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, it's kind of crazy because when you when you stop to think like all of the the variants of what makes up a song, like it really you start to go down this rabbit hole of like, you know, where Sammy was at at that point in his career, what kind of songs he was writing, because he's still evolving as an artist as well, even though he had been in the business a little longer than than uh than VH, um, he was still evolving too. You know, this the albums he was putting out in the mid-70s sound a lot different than the albums he was putting out in the mid-80s, right? In terms of writing styles and and all of that stuff. But yeah, it would have would have been a really interesting thing. The other, the other what if that I always scratch my head on is and I always thought it was a rumor, but I I've heard it confirmed a few times was you know, during the the diver down era, Ed was really unhappy. And you know, like fair warning, the album before that was a dark album because Ed just wasn't wasn't happy with the band situation and the friction, etc. And he turned to his old pal Gene Simmons and said, Hey, you're looking for guitarists, I'll be your guitarist, you know. Like, put me in, put me in, coach. Can you imagine? Oh man. Do you think he would have been wearing the spaceman makeup there? Like, you know, I mean, listen, they had Vinnie Vincent do a totally different character, right? So they'd have Eddie do a different character, too. But let's put Eddie in uh, you know, the Vinnie Vincent makeup, right? Like, whatever, you know, because has anyone done that online?
SPEAKER_00Someone had to have done that, might be somewhere.
SPEAKER_01Must be.
SPEAKER_00But he, I think Eddie would have like look, I love Kiss and I love Ace Freely. He's a fantastic guitar player and has inspired so many. But um Eddie is a different type of guitar player. I'm not a guitarist. You are, you could probably vouch for all that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_00So, like, if you have an Eddie Van Halen on stage with Kiss playing these songs, I mean KISS in its own right is just larger than life, but then you have this guy who just one person who's larger than life, like stepping out and playing a lead, like just uh just killing it.
SPEAKER_01At the same time, like you know, to Gene's credit, he said no, right? He turned him down, he turned down the greatest guitarist in the world to to be in the bed, right? He's like, Yeah, we are we do need a guitarist, but you're not the guy, you know, right? Um, because he knew he knew his brand. But at the same time, you know, they they did bring in KISS brought in Vinnie Vincent, as as any KISS fan knows, and they actually had him tone it down a bit because Vinny was a shredder, you know, he was an up-and-coming shredder, and they really had him, you know, simplify his style so that it just was more in line with the brand because Kiss was in this transitional stage and they weren't sure and they didn't want to like shock the fans with a totally different sound. Um, so the solos on that album at you know the 1982 Creatures of the Night are very simplistic or more more freely-esque than than they would be Shredder-esque, you know. Um, so bringing in Eddie, can you imagine asking Eddie to tone it down? Tap the brake.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But you know what? The strength of Eddie uh tube uh would have been the songwriting. I mean, um, that would have been a whole different thing. Like lick it up. Uh, you know, Vinny Vincent uh was responsible for a lot of the songs off that record, right? And that could have been Eddie. What if Eddie wrote Lick It Up?
SPEAKER_01Well, but here's the other thing, too, man. You don't see the Kiss guys ever really like in photo shoots, et cetera, smiling. Ed's known for a smile, right? Could you put Ed on stage next to Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons? Like, they're all brooding, and Eddie's like, hey, what's up, guys?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they're like, Stop smiling, Ed, stop smiling. It'll be it would be like that, you know what it would end up being like? What's that? Um, what's the interviewer's name that's infamous for uh the KISS uh interview with Eddie? It's the Tom Snyder interview. Tom Snyder, where Ace is obviously drunk or something and takes over the interview, yeah. And uh the other members of KISS weren't uh really not after that, right? That would have been Eddie, but uh you know, just smiling, like stop smiling.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but you know, then I mean, listen, man, the list goes on and on. We could we could do this all day, but like I mean, the big one obviously is what if Dave never left? What if Dave, what if what you know, there's that whole if you if you dig deep into all the Van Halen stories, there's that moment that uh, and I can't remember what book it's in or or what, but it might be Noel Monk's book, but uh the moment where Eddie and Dave have a final meeting and they, you know, like it's said, it's decided like Dave's leaving, and you know, it was kind of a somber moment and it wasn't in a big fight, it was kind of like a decision. And um, but what if, you know, at the door they just turned around and were like, nah, man, you know, and they hug it out and and they go on to make the next album, you know, Dave's lyrics over summer nights, or or even would he even approach Love Walks In or Right, you know, any of the songs, you know, uh good enough that you know, the songs that we know as good enough would obviously have different titles. Yeah, but I I really feel like like at uh yeah, get up, right? Like I feel like at that time, you know, Ed was sort of evolving as a as a writer and was writing more, you know, um, you know, songs that were a little more focused on the song as opposed to the riff only. What would Dave have done with that music? What could he have done with all that stuff? You know, it's interesting because when we go when we fast forward to 96, when there's the greatest hits, and Dave does a couple songs on the Greatest Hits album, those songs are a little dark. It's the mid-90s, a little grungy out there. That's a little, you know, the Van Halen songs are a little dark. Love those songs. Those songs are not winding up with Van Halen too. They're a little too dark for that, you know. Right. But Dave knocks it out of the park. Love those songs, they were great. They really, really worked. Would have loved to have heard more, you know, of that time period had they, you know, been able to keep it together. But there's another what if? What if they would have what if they would have actually gotten together in '96?
SPEAKER_00Oh well, that's when they should have reunited with Dave, you know. I've I've uh I've said I've mentioned that a few times where that was that was when they should have reunited and um made a full-length record and tour. And um, just judging from those two songs, I don't think they recorded more than those two songs uh at that moment. Maybe they did. Uh, but those two songs to me were just really good, you know, really good songs. And um, you know, so we say, what if Davy Roth never left Van Halen? How about this? What if I like to do it like that? What if Sammy Hagar turned down the offer to be in Van Halen? Now, when Hagar was offered that gig, uh others were uh mentioned or jammed the band uh prior, and they include um uh Patty Smythe. Um Daryl Hall was contacted. I I don't think that was before the Sharone thing. I think that was probably before Sammy Hagar.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00Um, and who else am I missing here? I know uh Ozzie had gotten a call, but I don't think that was before that wasn't before Sammy. He got the call before the Sharone. Interesting. Uh Ozzie did. Ozzie tells the story. Have you ever heard this? Ozzie uh says it says Eddie called me up. And the reason I know it's before Gary Sharone uh joined is because um uh the Osborne show came out right when he was called, he said. And Ozzy had said in an interview that uh yeah, Eddie called me up, and I didn't know if he was joking or serious about uh joining the band, and then I was like, huh? And then the Osborne show was taken off and it just wasn't a thing. Right. Uh but uh that would have been uh pretty crazy. So what you know, what if um Sammy said no? And and what if some of these other singers uh would have taken uh you know on the uh uh opportunity.
SPEAKER_01Well, you know, there was that talk too. They there's um mention in one of the MTV specials, uh, I believe it was Unleashed, where they talk about they were contemplating toing a different singer on each song, putting it out putting together an album where each song had a different singer. They reached out to Pete Townsend, too, like they reached out to a number of people that you're just like head scratchers, like, wow, you know, and honestly, out of all the names that they drop, right, that you hear over the years of like, oh, they reached out to this one or they were thinking about that one or whatever, the only one that really makes sense was Sam, you know, it was like Sammy like oh okay, I could see that, you know, but everybody else was like Pete Townsend, Pete Townsend's not joining Van Halen or Patty Smite's not joining Van Halen.
SPEAKER_00And you know why, you know why we talked about how in the beginning, what if Sammy would have joined Van Halen and Dave out? And you know, then you you fast forward to 5150 there now. Van Halen was established at that point, they weren't established in the beginning. And Sammy was still, you know, he was Sammy Hagar, people knew who he was in the beginning there, but even bigger. Uh, you know, I can't try 55 and all that. Here he is at at his peak. Here's Van Halen at their peak. Right. Uh both of them coming together was just like it was that was that's when it was supposed to happen.
SPEAKER_01Sure enough. Yeah, yeah. Listen, timing is everything. Timing is everything. But you know, it's interesting that period, uh, mid-80s, you saw a few bands kind of like I mean, the police broke up around the same time at the height, right? They hit they'd hit their like man, they were huge with synchronicity, and then that was it. They kind of broke up after that tour. Um similar to what Van Halen did Clash. It was Clash was right after us festival, but basically, basically the same time, you know. Um they had just run their course, but um, you know, there were there was a lot of uh there were a lot of people out there that could have filled these shoes uh or attempted to anyway, you know. Um it's still the verdict, I think, is still out. Some people, you know, Steve Perry.
SPEAKER_00Another one.
unknownInteresting.
SPEAKER_00Could you imagine him? Like he I mean, Steve Perry's, I mean, a great singer. Oh yeah. And I don't and I think jump is a fantastic song, but jump is not a Steve Perry song, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but you know, at the same time, um, so uh I mean Steve Perry might be the exact opposite singer as Sammy, right? So Sammy has has a little bit of that whiskey growl to him, he's got the bluesie thing, and you know, listen, Steve Perry has got this operatic, perfectly perfect, angelic voice that had hit the heights. I mean, I can't I can only imagine what Eddie would have done with a voice like that, and he probably would have leaned more into the keyboard stuff, right? So Journey, very keyboard heavy, keyboard-centric band. I think that um Steve might have embraced that, you know. And who knows what's in the vault. Maybe, maybe there is a couple tracks with Steve.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, could you imagine? Starting rumors. What if there is a vault of all these singers? And that would be amazing. That's an album I would love to hear. Now, see, I wouldn't have wanted to hear that back then. I'd be like, no, you gotta have Dave or Sammy, disgrace. But now I'd be like, wow, I'd be intrigued to uh to hear this.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, um, that'd be cool, man. Very cool, you know. And so around that time, like, okay, uh Diver Down period, Ed um jams with Brian May from Queen. And they do this little little side EP, Brian Mae and Friends Starfleet project that Ed plays guitar all over, and it's awesome. Great collectors edition. Uh, when it was out is super hard to find, but um, you know, that they just released a box set in the last couple of years. But what if uh what if Ed was invited to jam on a Queen track, you know, and and play on a against Freddie Mercury, you know? Not the craziest thing, because honestly, Ed played with Michael Jackson. It doesn't get crazier than that, right? So Ed could basically you could put him with anybody and it's like, oh, okay, yeah, let's let's see what that sounds like. Right. So, you know, not not such a crazy idea to put him on a track with just about anybody after that, you know. Yeah, what would that have sounded like? So, you know, I guess it depends on the the situation. Because if you just brought in as a like, hey, just play a solo on my track, then it just sounds like the artist. But if they're collaborating and they're writing, you know, like that's a different story. And I think, you know, when we talk about Steve Perry and and Eddie's keyboard obsession in the mid-80s, that actually could have been a thing. Like that that could have been like if if it were a thing in Van Halen where you could do side projects, even though that was always frowned upon. Like, you know, you could see Eddie work, okay, Dave, you don't want to sing keyboard songs? All right, I'm gonna get the guy who loves keyboard songs, and I'm just gonna do a little album with him, you know. Right.
SPEAKER_00But hey, I'll I'll throw a what if at you since you brought up Michael Jackson. This this one just hit me in the head. What if Eddie hadn't played Unbeated? Okay, strong song, still could have been a number one song. Right, he certainly had number one songs without Eddie. He certainly had to be. Yeah, I mean, it was it was Michael Jackson's record was gonna be, you know, but you know, there was a magic to Eddie's plan on that song. What if Eddie didn't play on that Michael Jackson song? And this goes two ways, okay. One way is would it have propelled Thriller to be number one uh as an album? And that's what blocked 1984 Van Halen from hitting the number one spot. So if Eddie hadn't done that, you know, would maybe that have maybe Van Halen would have gotten one week at that number one spot? I don't know, you know, because think about it, what if Eddie didn't do the solo and someone didn't do the solo until maybe a week later, could have pushed back the record. Like there's a lot of things, these elements, you know, that what is kind of a thing. And the other side of that is the one thing I had read, don't know if this is true, is that when when Dave Lee Roth went off to make the solo record, as you mentioned uh here a few minutes ago, how no one in Van Halen was really ever allowed to do anything else outside of Van Halen, like it was frowned upon. So there's Dave saying, Hey, wait a minute, this guy's doing this Michael Jackson record, and he goes, I'm just gonna go do this. They say that that is what opened the door for Dave to go, I'm gonna go uh do this, uh do these solo songs here, sure, uh these covers. And so it what if if there we go, if he didn't do the Michael Jackson thing, it may have not had Dave do the solo thing, and uh they could have still been together, or maybe just prolonged it a little longer until Sandy came to the fold. But um, I mean, I don't know.
SPEAKER_01I mean, because you know, when you when you talk about you know what had happened prior to Dave doing that EP, you have Ed did uh did a guest appearance on the Nicolette Larson album that Ted Dembleman produced. He then also played on uh with Brian May, which you know, while it was a minor release, it was still something that was out in the world that you could buy that had Eddie's playing on it. And you also had him on beat it. Till then, like nobody else in the band played with anybody else, right? So everyone else is adhering to the hey, we don't play with anybody else role, except for Ed. And then finally Dave comes around and says, Oh, listen, man, you got three of the you got three things out there that you know the band's not a part of. I'm gonna go do this one thing. And while it was a much bigger production, and obviously, you know, it's a whole EP with songs and and etc. Um, you know, honestly, like within the the the the band dynamic, like I think Dave was actually will well within his rights to go say, hey, yeah, listen, I'm gonna go do this thing. You were just on the biggest song of the year that stopped us from getting number one. I I think it's cool if I go do this EP. You know, but clearly, but clearly it brought it dusted up, you know, some some resentment, etc., within the band.
SPEAKER_00But um, yeah, that's a good point that you bring up. Yeah, there's like these these what ifs can snowball into so many things. How about this? What if jump, their number one, only number one song as a band with Sammy or without. Uh, what if jump had never been released? Wow, that's a huge game changer because that's what made them into a commercial band, like that song.
SPEAKER_01Right, it brought them out of the radio, the sort of dirtbag high school band, right? Like the band that all like the all the rockers in school, all the long-haired rockers liked to like the band your sister also liked, right? Like it would just brought them, they were then on pop radio, they were strictly a rock band, and now you would hear them on like Z100 and and other pop stations because that song was, you know, the number one and and was played on pop stations, and suddenly uh, you know, giving them this audience that they had never had before, which really um snowballs into a lot of things that people don't realize. So suddenly now your posters are being sold at Sam Goody, right? And they're and they're selling in higher numbers, right? Your singles are now selling in higher numbers. You know, when you have a hit, like they make a big deal about it in the industry because it is a big deal, because it it affords you much more revenue streams than just the actual song or just the actual album itself. Like there's more you're selling more merchandise, you're selling more tickets to your concerts. Like a hit means a lot in the industry. So it's a it's an interesting uh idea, what if of of whether whether jump was ever produced or not?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, take it away from that album. You still have a strong album. Oh yeah, it wasn't. Jump the intro for everyone to know that record, you know what I mean? Van Hill enthusiasts would have would have known it, but um just everyone else getting it.
SPEAKER_01So interesting that you bring that up. So how about this? So you you talk about the the step up with jump in terms of the stature of the band in the industry and and in pop culture. Um if they didn't have that and they just remained this arena rock band, you know, on that level and they they didn't hit the pop charts. Um you know, similar to a lot of other bands, how many people would care if the singer left? I mean, it was big news when Dave left and Sammy joined like it was it was on People Magazine. Would it be in People magazine if they had never had that number one hit? Right? Would they be as as forward facing? Now listen, Ed had uh, you know, he was married to Valerie, they were in People magazine already, so like they already had that foot in the door there, but would it be such a big but but I think that they were in that magazine because of Valerie? Ed's not making people magazine on his own, he's married to a television star, one of the biggest television stars. So while they were already in that type of you know, supermarket tabloid. Um, I I wonder if anybody would really care, you know. Like listen, like Deep Purple changed singers, you know, Rainbow Changed Singers. How many that wasn't headline news? You know what I mean? Like in the rock community, yes. In Circus Magazine, yes, big deal. Not beyond that, though.
SPEAKER_00No, right. Would Van Halen still be in that sort of leak? Well, MTV would have been a huge factor. I guess it would have depended on on what uh video. Hey, what if jump wasn't on that record and tattoo was? Would they have gotten the would they have gotten the uh you know status uh you know from the first single that they wanted? Because honestly, I've oh I felt when when different kind of truth came out. First of all, she's the woman should have been the first single released off of that record. Okay, now we're I know we're gonna probably say I think any other song from that album should have been the first single. Any single I shouldn't dive into this now because this is gonna be a whole other rabbit. Well, I'll just I'll just put my foot in the pool here. Just dip. Um, yeah, she's the woman I felt should have been the first single, or like you said, anything else. Tattoo, in my opinion, was thrown on there real quick to try to hit pop radio um and and try to recreate that magic of jump. Not that it sounds like jump, but in terms of hey, we need to get on this, on these channels, on this radio. I thought that was the wrong move. Classic rock radio would have embraced she's the woman, and then it just would have been all over the place, anyway. Um, but what if tattoo was uh on um you know 1984 and that was the first single, and let's just say it did as well as tattoo did when it was released, which wasn't too well actually on pop radio. Could that have really derailed Van Halen with the rest of that record, like Panama and Hot for Teacher? Just you know, maybe there wouldn't have been a budget for another video. Like who knows?
SPEAKER_01Interesting, you know? Yeah, yeah. I mean, when you think about rolling out an album and rolling out the singles and what that strategy is there from the label side of things, yeah, yeah, you need that first, especially the way that they launched it, right? It was it was New Year's Eve, 1983, and uh, you know, it was going to be premiered in you know midnight in 1984, and um it was it needed to hit, it needed to like they knew they knew they had a hit on their hands, they knew they had a big splashy song on their hands, otherwise, they wouldn't have put a weak song in such a big spotlight for that, right? So they knew what they had, but that's an interesting point, you know, to start to do a single that might not have been strong and let's see where the album goes, and then the next single kind of takes off, Panama kind of takes off, but yeah, with the trajectory on that, dude.
SPEAKER_00You can maybe the first single would have been you're making maybe the first single would have been Panama or I'll wait for that matter. Right if they were going for a keyboard uh song, right? Right, right, right, right. Dude, we could go on all day. I'll do this with you all day. I love this. Uh, we gotta do more. Hey, listen, I want to do a side note. Anyone listening, if you have a what if, please reach out to us via the comments, a DM, or an email at uh the mightyvanhalen podcast at gmail.com. Uh because I definitely want to do this more often. Do you have any more what ifs that you want to hit?
SPEAKER_01I mean, dude, there's there's so many. Uh uh yeah, and but you know what? You're right. Let's save them for another show. We'll talk about this some other time. Because we can go off on this. Like, listen, if you guys are listening to this episode and sparking any ideas, make sure you leave us a comment and let's keep the conversation going. Be sure to follow us on Instagram at Mighty underscore VH underscore podcast. Um, and uh thanks for tuning in. We really appreciate all the support we've been getting over these last bunch of episodes. Uh, this has been such a uh good time for me and Tommy to be uh broadcasting just our regular conversations that we'd be having uh on a random Tuesday anyway.
SPEAKER_00Hey, one thing I I would like to say to uh whoever is listening, what if you didn't tune in? Wouldn't you be regretting it now? What if uh definitely I can tell you they'd be definitely regretting it. They'd be regretting it, they'd be regretting it. Uh make sure you share us, share it with your friends. Let's let's get's uh build up this podcast. We're all family here, all we're all uh you know, lovers of the mighty Van Halen. Thanks for being part of it.
SPEAKER_01And until next time, happy drills.
SPEAKER_00What if they didn't cover that? No, I'll save that.